Joe Rogan vs Sanjay Gupta, Anecdotal evidence vs statistical average jms juttu. 1.5x speed (vähemalt)
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https://majandus.postimees.ee/740662...398.1628876702
Me vist ikkagi oleme debiilik rahvas.
"Sügisel vaktsineerisid end paljud noored, et osa saada avatud ühiskonnast, mida kõigile usinalt propageeriti. Alates hetkest, kui tuli kellaajapiirang, on noored vaktsineerimispunktidest haihtunud".
Vaktsineerimise põhjus.
"Saan baaris gin toonikut libistada".
Hmm.
Jätsin sellepärast vaktsineerimatta, et õhtul ei saa niikuinii baaris rum colat juua..
Jne.
Vaktsineerimise põhjus/vajalikus mujal pole?
Teen tapeeti.Kommentaar
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Loogiline ju. Sa võid mõelda, et ühiskondlik kasu, nakkusohutus ja muud toredad asjad, aga ega keskmine inimene ei hakka kunagi taolisel tasandil otsuseid tegema. Ma tean päris paljusid, kes vaktsineerisid, kui oli näha, et seda on õige pea igale poole pääsemiseks vaja. Mitte et nad vaktsiinivastased oleks olnud, aga mõttekäik oligi stiilis: "Koroona saan, siis olen nii noor, et ega midagi hullu juhtuda ei saa. Süstima lihtsalt ei viitsi minna, see võtab aega."Algselt postitas Fc. Vaata postitustKommentaar
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Vot mulle ei mahu see pähe, äkki keegi oskab selgitada, et inimene on terve, sümptomeid pole, kuid pcr positiivne. Nimelt vanaemal oleks homme puusaopp olnud, mida kaua ootasime. Ja hops, selline üllatus, et pos. pcr. Ise millegi üle ei kurda jne. Haiglasse kah ei võeta. Oleks võinud siis kordustesti teha. See ka pos, OK. Selge. Ennegi olnud neid valepositiivseid jne. Kunas nüüd vaeseke opile saab, ei tea. Liikumine aina vaevalisem. Pidi see lotovõit nüüd täna tulema...
E: växitud kahh, mitte, et see nakatumist välistaks. Loodetavasti ongi ls valehäire, mitte reaalselt haige.Kommentaar
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Viirus on kehal külas, ent ei saa oma tahtmist.see ei ole minu süü, et sa okaspuu oled
"joon palju ma tahan, aga ikka ta ei saa minust aru"
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple."Kommentaar
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Kas Sparta ja MEM Cafe on avatud?Kommentaar
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Kitseküla spordiklubi on avatud.Kommentaar
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Midagi pole teha, aga ajuvabad on need piirangud, kui pead lugema postimehest, et porgandid on rahvast nii täis, et rasedad naised ei saa istuma ega astuma. Narva suunaline rong on ju Antivaxx-express nagunii.
Kuskil Lõuna-Eestis mäeotsa ei tohi nööriga ennast vaktsineerimata inimene vabas õhus venitada, sest tegu on siiski piiritletud alaga (see oraanž võrk siis täpsemalt ümber mäe).
Kuskil täpsemalt on räägitud sellest Kitseküla skämmist, et kuidas need vennad ennast lahti suudavad hoida
Last edited by purgeenius; 14.12.21, 11:26. Põhjus: Update: MEM on elus siiski. https://elu24.postimees.ee/7407675/kas-skandaalne-elvis-brauer-avas-supikoogi#_ga=2.36376743.64574948.1639335178-57390055.1614329653Kommentaar
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remdesivir, ivermectin või monoclonal antibodies? vitamin drip? mida panid?Algselt postitas Daz Booob Vaata postitustKommentaar
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Möh? Mul pole haisugi
see ei ole minu süü, et sa okaspuu oled
"joon palju ma tahan, aga ikka ta ei saa minust aru"
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple."Kommentaar
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Tsiteeritud ühest teisest foorumist ja ühe statistilise matemaatiku poolt, kes Soome meditsiini süsteemis hetkel tööl. (Soomlane).Many of us are fatigued with the topic at this point, but I felt compelled to post a small write-up in the hopes that it'll save you or your family members from unnecessary suffering in the near future. (TL;DR at bottom)
Omicron has been spreading at almost record-breaking speeds. Delta had a R0 value of 5–9, and Omicron looks to be at least double that, which is getting to record-high virulence territory (think measles but in a world with no immunity to it). And remember this is exponential increase we're talking about.
But there's one thing that's been even more viral than the strain: the temptingly comforting news about it being a mild disease.
We might wanna think about that one again. Let's say it sends people to the hospital only 1/3 as likely as Delta. If it spreads through a now-unprotected populace such that 10x as many contract it daily, that already triples the hospitalizations. In a situation where hospitals are already overcrowded and overworked. And with the exponential spread, 10x isn't the worst-case scenario. A recent study said confirmed Omicron cases were only 30% less likely to be hospitalized vs. the OG strain. But this data is still very fresh.
Another bad aspect is the delay of information. Say there's 1000 cases today, and 70% of them exhibit symptoms a week later (on average). Hospitalizations occur a week after that, and any ICU cases one more week thereafter. Say the exponential spread is 2x every 3–4 days, as has been estimated.
That's 4000 daily cases at the time we've confirmed there's 700.
That's 16,000 daily cases by the time we know how many of 'em ended up in the hospital.
That's 64,000 cases per day before we even know how many of the 700 wind up in ICU.
Norway, a country of 5 million, estimated that hundreds of thousands could be contracting it daily if no preventive measures are taken.
Please protect yourselves, and especially your elderly or otherwise immuno-compromised relatives, and try to flatten the curve at least a little bit. We need to avoid needing a hospital during the worst rush. Get the 3rd (2nd if J&J) jab as soon as you can; it increases antibody count manifold such that the sheer number of antibodies can mitigate their reduced compatibility with Omicron. And avoid needless, extended contact with others in the coming weeks. I trust I don't need to tell anyone here to wear a mask to protect those around you.
There's no need to panic, nor any point in it. Just be smart; be armed with knowledge and err on the side of caution.
TL;DR: Omicron spreads exponentially fast, and that speed can easily offset its possible mildness (in overloading hospitals and all-around just causing a bad time). Take it seriously, at least until we know more about it. Protect your fam. Take the next shot when you can.
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Ettevaatlikkusele, tähelepanelikusele suunamine eeldustele rajatud matemaatikaga on ohtlik tee.see ei ole minu süü, et sa okaspuu oled
"joon palju ma tahan, aga ikka ta ei saa minust aru"
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple."Kommentaar
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Omicroniga on see müstika, et üleeile tuvastati alles esimene Omicroni surm. #tavalinegrippKommentaar
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Omikroni vastu ei aitavad see vana vaktsiin nii väga aga tehke tõhusustoos ikke ära. Pfizeri juhi sõnul on varsti ka omikroni vaktsiin valmis ja neid tuleb uuel aastal 3 tk
Ganvix!Kommentaar
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Tänx, ma pidingi vaatama, millal kolmanda aeg on!Algselt postitas Varikonto Vaata postitustLootus sureb viimasena, ütles usk ja tappis armastuse.
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