Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu

[eika]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Minu jaoks on see keskmiste väravate arvutamine sellisel moel mõttetu. Peamine ikkagi, et oleks põnevad mängud. Mina nt vaatan parema meelega 1-0 lõppevat põnevusmängu, kui nt 4-0 lõppevat ühepoolset jalgpalli. Õnneks on sellel hooajal Serie A`s olnud just põnevad ja suureskoorilised mängud, mida veel tahta

[Jasper]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

no mis toimub...cassano minemas reali? toni kiitmas barcelonat? andestamatu...koondisest välja kui hispaaniasse peaks kolima!

[eika]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

No ma ei saa nendest meestest kohe üldse aru. Mõlemas meeskonnas on tippründajad ees ja platsile saamine oleks vägagi problemaatiline. Ja üleüldse itaallastel on võõrsil läbilöömisega läbi aegade suuri raskusi olnud.

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Nja, Cassano rikkub oma karjääri ilmselt lõplikult ära, kui ta Reali läheb. Aga nüüd mil Sacchi läinud ehk seda ei juhtu, kuid vist on need kõlakad järjest tugevamaks läinud pärast Sacchi lahkumist. Eks näis. Muidugi on võimalus, et kõik läheb õnneks, kuid nagu eika põhimõtteliselt ütles, itaallased ei saa võõraste maade stiilidega mitte hästi hakkama. Muidugi iseenesest, Cassano tehnilisust arvestades, võib ta ka läbi lüüa Hispaanias, kuid see on liiga suur risk. MM lootused kahvatuksid sügavalt. Aga noh ainuke võimalus hetkel on Real, Inter langes ära nüüd (Obinna toodi). Või siis pisut naeruväärne asi tuli pähe. PARMA!? Sanz\'il on raha küll ning vaatamata sellele, et Corradi on väravaid lööma hakkanud viimasel ajal, kuluks ikka Morfeo närvilisuse juures küll üks parem mees sinna ära. Aga ilmselt hakkab Parma tugevdama kaitseliini.

[eika]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Ma tean veel ühte klubi, kellele meeldib meeskonda tasuta või siis odavalt superstaare tuua

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Algselt postitas eika


Ma tean veel ühte klubi, kellele meeldib meeskonda tasuta või siis odavalt superstaare tuua

Ma tean ka, aga kas sellel klubil on ka vaja ründajaid. Tundub mulle, et vist ei ole.

Ahjaa, selle ründava värgi osas, tooks välja ühe Mancini tsitaati Interi kohta (Ei viitsi tõlkima hkkata seda, aga annab aimu uue põlvkonna treeneritest):

\"I believe such good players can\'t limit themselves to try to defend, and grab a goal on the counter attack. This is the Italian mentality of 20 years ago. We must go out to win against anyone and everyone. If we don\'t win it\'s important, anyway, that the squad has its own identity, that above all it\'s a squad designed to play well, then success will arrive for certain\"

[Jasper]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

panen siia sellise lingi, kus valitud teamide läbi aegade parimaid on valitud

[Maarek]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Algselt postitas Jasper


panen siia sellise lingi, kus valitud teamide läbi aegade parimaid on valitud

Miks sa siis ainult ühe meeskonna parimate lingi paned. Neid oli ju seal rohkem
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...e/allhome.html

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Suht naljakas arvamus tegelt mõnes kohas. Kõik suurem bläkk on kahtlemata Silvio Piola väljajätmine Lazio all-timest! Ja muidugi käis pinda ka see, et Ronaldo oli Interi omas. Enne kasvõi Vieri! Ning üllatus oli mul hiiglaslik, kui Sandro Mazzola\'t ei näinud seal! Aga vaatamata mõnele eriarvamusele on channel4\'lt supertöö!

[Maarek]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Leidsin huvitava tabeli, mis koostatud Fox Soccer Channeli poolt. Fiorentina positsioon mulle meeldib , kuigi eks need tabelid üsna suhtelised tavaliselt ole.

RANK CLUB PTS LAST
1 FC Barcelona (ESP) 246 3
2 Olympique Lyon (FRA) 232 1
3 Chelsea FC (ENG) 228 2
4Juventus (ITA) 224 4
5 Bayern Munich (GER) 198 5
6 Inter Milan (ITA) 186 7=
7 AC Milan (ITA) 176 7=
8 PSV Eindhoven (HOL) 160 9
9 Liverpool FC (ENG) 154 6
10 Manchester United (ENG) 152 13
11 Real Madrid (ESP) 148 10
12 Werder Bremen (GER) 140 16
13 Arsenal FC (ENG) 128 12
14= Hamburger SV (GER) 112 11
14= CF Valencia (ESP) 112 NR
16 Celtic Glasgow (SCO) 62 22
17 Boca Juniors (ARG) 60 15
18 Feyenoord (HOL) 58 18
19 FC Porto (POR) 54 21
20 Fiorentina (ITA) 52 19=
21= Corinthians (BRA) 42 19=
21= Girondins Bordeaux (FRA) 42 NR
23 Villarreal (ESP) 34 17
24= AZ Alkmaar (HOL) 26 23
24= Ajax Amsterdam (HOL) 26 NR

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Mõtlesin, et võiks iga kuu mingi debati teha. Nagu teeks mingi teema ja siis vaidleks selle üle. Näiteks: Christian Vieri teema. Ainuke asi, mida on vaja on eriarvamused ning selle välja ütlemine. Küll siis vaidlus oma arvamuse kaitsmisega tekiks. Ja iseenesest oli Vieri teemas suht lõbus.

Kas tasub proovida?

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Vanglateed ees ootav Perugia president Luciano Gaucci tuli välja, siis välja sellise uudisega:

Disgraced former Perugia President Luciano Gaucci has launched new accusations at the Italian football world of “orders” given to referees.

“Football is 70 to 80 per cent fixed,” he slammed on ‘Striscia la Notizia.’ “It is run by politics, economy, agents GEA and FIGC chief Franco Carraro. They have monopolised the sport and turned the beautiful game into a travesty.”


Gaucci is hardly new to making wild accusations about ‘the powers that be,’ but the recent arrest warrant for fraudulent bankruptcy against the businessman and his two sons, Riccardo and Alessandro, have brought forth a new tirade.


“The same clubs have to win every time,” he continued. “There is no psychological sublimation – there are outright orders to the referees on who to favour, who to defeat and who needs to win. It’s a scandal.”


Gaucci, who famously attempted to sign Serie A’s first female player and ‘sacked’ Korean Ahn Jung-Hwan for scoring the winning goal against Italy in the 2002 World Cup, is currently in Santo Domingo pending an international arrest warrant.


“When will I return to Italy? If all goes well, in two months, but I need to say from here what I know and that if this aggression against my children and me continues, then I will reveal everything. Those who must pay will pay.”


Perugia were declared bankrupt in July 2005 after more than £17m went missing from their accounts. The club was relegated to Serie C1 under new ownership.

Kas uskuda või mitte - enda asi. Pole ta nagu esimene mees, kes seda väitnud on. Korruptsioonist teab ta ilmselt palju.

[Jasper]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Channel4;


Lazio and Roma players will meet Italian-born survivors of the Nazi death camps to help combat anti-Semitism among their fans.

Mayor of Rome Walter Veltroni has started a campaign after being shocked by the racist banners and flags on show at the Stadio Olimpico in recent weeks.


“Football and swastikas have no place together. I hope that this meeting will give them a chance to learn about the horrors of the death camps at first hand from some of the actual survivors,” explained Veltroni. “It may help bring back some dignity to the most popular sport in Europe.”


Both Lazio and Roma have been punished by the Disciplinary Commission after sections of their fans unfurled banners with neo-Nazi and anti-Semitic imagery this season and it is becoming an increasingly worrying trend.


Only once has one of the players been involved, as Biancocelesti star Paolo Di Canio (pictured) was fined and suspended for his Fascist salutes to the fans. “Di Canio has been invited along with the rest of the squad,” added the Mayor.


Last week the entire Roma squad, led by Francesco Totti, also met with Holocaust survivors.


During the meeting Totti was told by a long-time Roma fan that he was a better footballer than the Giallorossi captain. “When I was deported at just 15 I was a better player than you,” said Alberto Sed.


“It was a very important experience for us,” said Roma Coach Luciano Spalletti. “To hear certain things from people who went through them was moving. They asked us not to play if those banners were shown again and we intend to follow their wishes. A stadium is for sport, not to make political statements.”


In another anti-racist campaign, Roma fans will receive a free copy of Roberto Benigni’s double Oscar winning film ‘Life is Beautiful’ when they buy ‘Il Romanista’ newspaper.


Editor Riccardo Luna feels that the story of a Jewish family deported to the concentration camps may help to educate some of the capital’s notorious Neo-Nazi fans.


“At least this way some of them might grasp what happened,” said Luna. “The majority of the messages from our fans asked how they could help to show their anger with the situation.”


The idea to distribute the film came after months of racist banners which all came to a head during the Roma-Livorno game in January.


Roma were punished by the Disciplinary Commission with an order to play their February 8 home game against Cagliari at a neutral ground behind closed doors.


Kuna ise seal lehel ei käi siis kopipeist ühest teisest foorumist.

OT: Pippo eufooria tuleb hiljem koos väravatega

[Tanel]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Kes postitas 10 000-nda posti Itaalia teemas. Igatahes pidu!

[Jasper]

Vastus teemale \'Saapamaa vuti üldarutelu\'

Päris tulemuslik teine poolaeg oli siis Serie A mängudes. Vaatasin põgusalt ka väravad üle ja soovitan seda teha ka teistel. Välja tooksin Suazo penalti(keskele ja väravavahil jalgevahelt), Mutarelli pommi, Aquilani löök(kuigi väravavahi pakk, siis mulle meeldis), Foglio penalti, Amauri koll ja Malago \"tsenderdus\"?

Loomulikult oli ka ilus vaadata Sheva, Treze, DP, Gila, Figo ja tesite külmi lõpetamisi aga eelnevad olid paremad elamused.