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  1. #38861
    Eesti koondislane Kasutaja JuriM avatar
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    Tsitaat Algselt postitas $$$ Vaata postitust
    Jah, aga see ei tähenda, et liiga koht edasi antakse siis.
    Muidugi mitte, ega keegi ei loodagi seda.. Klikke toodetakse aga küll!


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    Eesti koondislane Kasutaja žurnalist avatar
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    Nii. Hooaeg läbi. Peaks midagi ütlema.
    Hooaeg algas aeglaselt, kulges kohutavalt, olime halvemad kui kunagi varem, korraks saabus lootusekiir ja siis lagunes kõik jälle koost.
    Ei tõtta andma hinnanguid, et Moul oli õigus ja Ole rattad on alt kukkunud. Mou tuli minema saata. Ole palkamine oli mõistetav.
    Mingis mõttes isegi hea, et kõik koos kukkus ja emotsiooni pealt lõpuni võitudega välja ei mindud. See katastroofiline lõpp näitas, et midagi peab siiski kardinaalselt muutuma.

    Selline tunne, et see oli märgiline hooaeg, mis nõuab suvel suisa revolutsiooni. Mehed pole füüsiliselt piisavalt võimekad, ei suuda pressida. Ei ole tehniliselt piisavalt head. Meeskond pole hästi komplekteeritud ning kaitse on täiesti ribadeks. Oleme hooaeg-hooajalt astunud kord ühe sammu edasi ja seejärel kaks sammu tagasi.

    Nagu on kõik eelnevad tõestanud, treener pole ainuke. Oleks vaja spordidirektorit. Muutust omanike suhtumises. Tiimi selgroog on vaja täiesti ümber kujundada. Ja raha on vaja roppu moodi kulutada, sest kõik on valmis meid sel meeleheitlikul perioodil lüpsma.

    Ühe suvega imesid ei tee, aga soovin näha kas või püüdlust teha midagi teisiti, kui on tehtud viimased 5-6 aastat.

  3. #38863
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    Tsitaat Algselt postitas žurnalist Vaata postitust
    Mehed pole füüsiliselt piisavalt võimekad, ei suuda pressida. Ei ole tehniliselt piisavalt head. Meeskond pole hästi komplekteeritud ning kaitse on täiesti ribadeks. Oleme hooaeg-hooajalt astunud kord ühe sammu edasi ja seejärel kaks sammu tagasi.
    Seda oli viimases mängus ka hästi näha. Selle ajaga, mil Pogba suutis 3 sammu teha, jooksis Cardiffi kesiganes palliga äärelt kasti. Suvepuhkus ei saanud tulla paremal ajal! Õnneks Prantsusmaa ei pääsenud rahvaliiga finaali.
    "This team will be a bit different next season, it is clear," said Klopp. "We will do something with transfers."

  4. #38864
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    Tsitaat Algselt postitas Ladva Ants Vaata postitust
    Tänks Ander ja käi v*ttu Ed!!!
    £300k+ nädalas on väidetavalt see palk, mida talle PSG-s maksma hakatakse.

    Anderi shithousery oli küll tasemel, aga seda on ikka maru palju.
    20 LEGEND

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    £300k+ nädalas on väidetavalt see palk, mida talle PSG-s maksma hakatakse.

    Anderi shithousery oli küll tasemel, aga seda on ikka maru palju.
    saad 3,5+ korda rohkem palka + actually võidad ka midagi... ei ole raske otsus vast.

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    saad 3,5+ korda rohkem palka + actually võidad ka midagi... ei ole raske otsus vast.
    Jaa, iga jalgpalluri unistus on võida Ligue 1 tiitel. Most coveted award

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    Jaa, iga jalgpalluri unistus on võida Ligue 1 tiitel. Most coveted award
    oleks ehk kuidagigi asjalik argument kui tal praegune meeskond millelegi ka pretendeeriks lähitulevikus. hetkel aga mitte.

  8. #38868
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    Võita on ikka parem kui kaotada, eriti kui palju rohkem pappi saab.
    "This team will be a bit different next season, it is clear," said Klopp. "We will do something with transfers."

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    No viimaste Ed'i kõnede põhjal on juhatus kindlalt Ole seljataga ja tehakse koos hirmuspingsat tööd, et klubi hiilgus taastada. Vähemalt 250milli kasutada. Midagi võiks siis nagu juhtuda ju.
    Van Der Sar saved it, United again!

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    Kui ma lugesin lauset, mille sees oli Ed Woodward ja üüratu eelarve kulutamiseks, tuli mulle millegipärast ahv granaadiga meelde.

    Balaball - Первое ток-шоу о спорте на русском в Прибалтике/ Esimene Baltimaade talk-show spordist vene keeles

    Эпизод 18/ Episood 18- Balaball on külas Spartaki fännil - Vitali Flotskil/ Balaball в гостях у фаната Спартака - Виталия Флотского

    telekavaataja.blogabet.com

  11. #38871
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    No viimaste Ed'i kõnede põhjal on juhatus kindlalt Ole seljataga ja tehakse koos hirmuspingsat tööd, et klubi hiilgus taastada. Vähemalt 250milli kasutada. Midagi võiks siis nagu juhtuda ju.
    Gonna be a long one today...

    So my guy has come back, and is now happy that what he was told was a one persons list of suggestions, which was eventually presented at yesterdays meeting (which he has confirmed happened as part of a multi-site conference call - the Head Scouts of each region were present, as was Fletcher in a "Guest" role, seemingly as a way to get a feel for the rooms reaction to him in a psuedo-"final-interview").

    He says that based on what came out of that meeting, he is told that 5 signings are hoped for, with 3 being the "minimum acceptable number". Their are "top targets" for 4 positions (CB, CM, RW, RB) and that each of those has a backup that we've contacted as well to garner interest. The 5th possible signing would either be if a star goes, or in the case we sell a load of players Ole no longer wants (which is a lot) then we pick up a solid utility. How well we move on players will decide if we make the move for a 5th signing or not.

    This genuinely sounds like they've actually got their shit together.

    Warning; there's not much below that is new, and it parrots a lot what has already been said, but offers some additional logic to things.

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    "Top Targets" (and Backups) are:

    • Sancho (RW/LW - Dortmund) - He's not sure who the backup for RW is. Knows that we're after the Swansea lad James, but he won't be seen as an out-the-gates starter for a while. He thinks that the talk of Sancho being wary is slightly over-blown, but he might give Dortmund one more season, mostly for his own benefit as he has enjoyed being out of the English media spotlight (can't say I blame him). His agent has already told everyone else he's not interested so it sounds like it is literally "Us or Dortmund" now.



    • Koulibaly (CB - Napoli) - We've apparently given up on Alderweireld, as it seems he wants to get a silly final contract from PSG or Juve and we don't want to match those. The likely backups right now are likely someone older that we'd try to loan from a club that is trying to move someone on for a younger face.



    • Wan-Bissaka (RB - Crystal Palace) - Meunier is the backup option - but apparently we have an agreement with PSG already done in case we want to make the moves, and the "agent shite" is now finished too. He knows he's second choice. Wan-Bissaka is keen, it's now seemingly a matter of just how much Palace will try to bend us over on price. This could easily shoot up to the £50m mark if they want it to (they are no longer strapped for cash thanks to staying up). One possible spanner in this is that Nicky Butt has said he thinks we have options in the academy that should be promoted (Laird) and that any deal here would likely see us lose him to another team.



    • CM Targets depend on whether Pogba wants to go or not. We've apparently set a deadline to players like himself and De Gea to tell us what they want to do. One thing he has said is that he knows we have reached out to Rabiot, and are not worried about his history as the belief is that PSG have blown it massively out of proportion. The other potential targets are Fernandes at Benfica & we also are supposedly keeping tabs on Madrid to see if they plan to move any CM's on, as all of theirs would improve us.



    • No interest in Declan Rice whatsoever.



    • No attempts going to be made to bring back any former players like Memphis (who Woodward is apparently still angry at himself for letting go at Mourinho's behest) and Zaha (who apparently has told his agent to basically tell us to go feck ourselves.....which is fair really).



    • Nicky Butt is going to be getting a massive youth academy budget over the next 3 years to start snapping up young talent from around the country. Brexit (or lack of knowing what Brexit will actually look like ) is causing him a bit of concern as the rules on young player transfers is a minefield already, but not being able to look into signing EU Youth Players can potentially be quite harmful to us. He is also going to sit on the Transfer Committee as a "we already have a guy ready to go" sort of seat, which is good to hear to be honest.



    • No current contingencies for a GK if De Gea says he won't sign a new deal are known of. Oblak is considered too expensive this season when other problem need solving first. So this could wind up proper fecking us if not careful.



    • No mention of any strikers coming.


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    Players Leaving

    • Ole gave Woodward a list of names he wants gone during his final "interview" for the job when he was made permanent. The list was apparently massive and Woodward and he eventually agreed to narrow it down over the course of 2-3 years to avoid having too many in's and out's all this summer whilst they try to be a bit smarter about things. This would explain why Young, Smalling and Jones were given new deals, as they will simply be let go when their deals conclude (the feeling is they're not going to be worth much in a transfer fee, so replace them one-by-one every year in a more fluid and logical manner).



    • Unless Pogba pushes for it (by handing in a formal transfer request and foregoing his signing on/loyalty bonuses), he isn't going anywhere for any price.



    • Martial is going nowhere as Ole thinks he can turn him around and kick him on. He basically is on the "one more year" list, along with Lukaku and Lingard.



    • De Gea contract situation causing a bit of a rift. Some people think we should just move on and try to get something for him, others are convinced we can get him to sign another deal if we push for it. Not known who is on what sides of that argument.



    • Ole apparently fecking loves Marcos Rojo and see's him as a potential DM conversion...



    • Those who are possibly on this years "list" are; Bailly, Mata (Free), Sanchez (looking to loan him off if no-one wants a permanent deal), Matic, Pereira (Free) and Darmian (free).


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    Youth Updates

    • Butt was present for the meeting and presented a list of players he believes are ready to train and play Senior games. Nothing too shocking; Tuanzebe, Garner, Laird, Gomes and Chong. Says that if needed we could also call upon Ramzani in League Cup games if we needed to, and thinks that several defensive options also could be used in that scenario.



    • Callum Gribbin is leaving.



    • Wants Greenwood to stay around first-team but due to his age is fearful of us throwing him to the wolves to soon and says that he deserves the right to be integrated properly.



    • Fosu-Mensah likely going back to Holland or possibly Germany on a permanent deal. Ole wants the chance to see him train, but offers are coming in for him already as people expect his time at United is done.



    • James Wilson (remember him!) is being released. Butt apparently believes that this was a huge failure on their part and they should be "ashamed" at how they blew it with him and Januzaj (Butt is VERY vocal still about how LVG fecked Januzaj up).



    • Butt is trying to push the idea that we have 3 potential "World Class Keepers in the making" in our academy - Henderson (who will return on loan at Sheffield United), Kovář & Alex Fojtíček. Wants to see all three be given loans/realistic chances at the first team within the next 3/4 years. Henderson sooner.


    ────────

    That's it for now. He said it's unlikely anything will be done In or Out until the week after the CL final to let the dust on everything settle, and to allow those with ultimatums to answer them. By the sounds of it, Nicky Butt has a LOT more say in things than we maybe realised, which might be why we've gone with a committee approach, and it's interesting that our regional scouting heads were also present (this might be a means of us looking to bring in foreign players before they get "found" earlier - that's my speculation though).
    Sa mõtled seda eks?

  12. #38872
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    uus särk tööpealkirjaga "mida sitemini mängitakse, seda rohkem kuldame üle".
    see chevy plönn on seal 2021-022 hooaja lõpuni?

    buy the ticket, take the ride.

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    20-21 vist v . 7 aastat oli ja hakkas 14-15. Ehk siis 14-15 , 15-16 , 16-17, 17-18 , 18-19 , 19-20 , 20-21 .
    "Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it’s a better cow than the one you’ve got in your own field. It’s a fact. But it never really works out that way." SAF

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    Lukakust pole enam asja?

    Manchester United have submitted an opening bid for Lyon striker Moussa Dembélé worth more than €40m
    Fino alla fine FORZA JUVE

  15. #38875
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    Lukakust pole enam asja?
    Üritame Interisse suruda, temast pole kõrge pressiga ja liikuva ründeliiniga asja ja teiseks valikuks on liiga hea ka kallis mees.

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    Must logo taust on ikka rõveduse tipp särgil. Meenutab kunagist valget lärakat logo taustal. Äkki oli 2006?

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    Tsitaat Algselt postitas Ibanez Vaata postitust
    Must logo taust on ikka rõveduse tipp särgil. Meenutab kunagist valget lärakat logo taustal. Äkki oli 2006?
    jep https://www.subsidesports.com/uk/man...-shirt-archive

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    Minu arust on teil koguaeg rõvedad särgid nii, et suht pohhui teema ju

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    Olen nõus, pole kunagi sellest särgi teemast aru saanud. See pole moeshow. Olgu selleks kodu- või võõrsilvorm, reklaamsponsoriks Sharp või Chervolet, embleemtaust must või kollane. Unitedi särk on alati ilus, United on ilus.

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