Võtke tuba!

[vincent]

Andeks, et julgesin tema pühadust kritiseerida. Tahtsin lihtsalt katsetada, kas härral jätkub kannatust oma apsu järel ja ei asu vasturünnakule, aga võta näpust.

Pühadusest on asi väga kaugel, konstruktiivne kriitika on alati enam kui teretulnud, vigadest püüame õppida. Sa ehk katsud ükskord aru saada, et sulle vastamise stiil sõltub sellest, milline sa ise oled.

Võin öelda, et viimase paari aasta jooksul jalgpalliliidu ja erinevate klubide töötajatega kokku puutudes on kogemused olnud läbinisti positiivsed. Rõhutan, tõepoolest läbinisti. Mõistetakse, et ajame kõik ühist jalgpalliasja, nii nagu keegi vähegi suudab ja oskab. Ja kui vaja, siis abistame üksteist, mitte ei noki pisivigu taga. Aga eks iga reegli erandina satub igasse kasti ikka üks mädaõun sisse, kellel on vaja järjepidevalt teiste osapoolte aadressil mingeid idiootseid torkeid teha. Kirjutad teise põse ette pööramisest, aga ise oled väga varmas alustama - proovi selles äkki kõigepealt põhjust leida ja siis mõtle natuke järele, kas on mõtet mingist kannatuse katsetamisest hakata rääkima.

Minu poolt joon all, kui kedagi häirib, siis vabandan ja võib kogu selle jutu sinna offtopicusse toa võtmise vms teemasse visata.

[urmar]

Räägi aga räägi, fakt on see, et just sina oled see, kes seda vana lugu koguaeg uuendada püüad. Julgen ma vaid kuskil midagi iitsatada, kohe on vints platsis ja vana plaat peale.

[urmar]

Mis puutub seda vana lugu, mida vints koguaeg meenutab, siis seal oli lugu natukene teisiti. Nimelt läks mul ühele meeskonnale kogemata vale nimi protokolli. Soccernet kopeeris selle ja siis see klubi koppis enda kodukale vaid oma meeskonna koosseisu ja ma imestasin, et ta ei vaadanud kriitilise pilguga oma meeskonna koosseisu. Ma ei süüdistanud ju üldsegi ajakirjanikke, aga need ei suutnud süveneda ja võtsid seda kui rünnakut enda vastu ja asusid kohe umbkaitsesse.

[urmar]

Nüüd veidi teemakohast juttu ka. Kui keegi juhuslikult vaatab Trans-T.Kalevi protokolli ja märkab seal kahtlusi, siis kõik tundub Transi poolt siiski korrektne olevat, lihtsalt süsteem ei luba nende duubli mängijaid avaldada. Nad on kõik siiski õigeaegselt regatud.

Lisaks läks alguses Hausenbergi asemel Hansberg kirja ja ka värav talle kaheks minutiks, enne, kui taipasin üle kontrollida. Lihtsalt Narvast info saamine oli keeruline, telefonikõnet segas vilisev tuul ja nimi läkski sassi. Soccenet parandage protokollis ka see viga ära ja ärge seda jälle rünnakuna võtke.

[atsetoon]

Räägi aga räägi, fakt on see, et just sina oled see, kes seda vana lugu koguaeg uuendada püüad. Julgen ma vaid kuskil midagi iitsatada, kohe on vints platsis ja vana plaat peale.

mitu aastat foorumit jälginuna julgen öelda, et sa oled üsna vastik tegelane. Loodetavasti jäävad su väljaütlemised vaid foorumiseinte vahele ja IRL oled vähemalt veidigi normaalsem

[vincent]

Söön sõnu siiski korraks veel.

Asjalik veale tähelepanu juhtimine:

Kalju koosseisust Lahti vastu on üks nimi puudu, äkki võtate vaevaks ja lisate.

Lisaks läks alguses Hausenbergi asemel Hansberg kirja ja ka värav talle kaheks minutiks, enne, kui taipasin üle kontrollida. Lihtsalt Narvast info saamine oli keeruline, telefonikõnet segas vilisev tuul ja nimi läkski sassi. Soccenet parandage protokollis ka see viga ära ja ärge seda jälle rünnakuna võtke.

Tühi ironiseerimine:

lihtsalt keegi ei pannud seda tähele, mis ei tee vutiajakirjanikele just au.

Postimehe brigaadil võttis täna lausa 9 minutit aega, et avavärava autor välja kuulutada! Seni oli lihtsalt ilus värav.

Suvalised hiljutised näited, loodetavasti saad ikka ise ka vahest aru. Mida tarka täpsemalt peaks sellise "imestamisega" keegi peale hakkama, jääb mulle sügavalt mõistmatuks. Tolle vana asja osas luban siinkohal pühalikult, et seda rohkem meelde ei tuleta, isegi kui midagi samalaadset jälle juhtuma peaks. Seda enam, et vastavad imestavad postitused kustutas põhiline asjaosaline juba ammu ise ära. Tea kas hakkas piinlik või sai ime otsa.

[urmar]

Ei oskagi arvata, milline neist tsitaatidest etteheide on, ühes neist ju tunnistasin oma viga ja see viimane oli su enda korralik ämber, mis vääris ju äramainimist ja võta seda lihtsalt kui sõbralikku kriitikat, mille üle ju rõõmus pidid olema.

[vincent]

loodetavasti saad ikka ise ka aru.

Kurat, jällegi seesama reha!

[mazz]

Kui urmari eesmärk oli see väitlus läbusse ajada, siis palju õnne. Kui ei olnud, siis oeh.

[meesmuiste]

Certainly it would be a huge job for ETV if they shall decide to ask all these sources to remove the video...

as musch as i know - easy one. you might consider that FA and ERR are makeing favours to you. even though you started with stealing.

[Fausto]

as musch as i know - easy one. you might consider that FA and ERR are makeing favours to you. even though you started with stealing.

Dear readers,
I'm Fausto Di Nella CEO @Tere Italia the old space that hosted Angelo and his Rumori di Spogliatoio in the past.

I follow the forum almost everyday but I'm a foreign so try to understand something but I don't wanna to invade other spaces... this is an exception and I'm going to explain why:

the user "meesmuiste" can't write of "favours" and "stealing" for other contents because is talking about things punished by the laws in Italy and Estonia... so I have a web-reputation with other works and if that user wants to explain to us why he is representing here 2 different media will be better.
If he wants to leave name, surname and email it would be great for me and Italian Postal Police.
The message above, of course, it will be removed in case the user don't wanna leave the info.

Internet is so dangeours in the hands of people not used with it.

Fausto Di Nella
fausto.dinella@gmail.com

Head Aega!

[Rumori di Spogliatoio]

as musch as i know - easy one. you might consider that FA and ERR are makeing favours to you. even though you started with stealing.

Many statements here and many mistakes with them, Steiv.

First of all, I opened the 'favours drawer' on my desk and strangely it was empty. Usually when I receive a favour, I store it there to remember in order to pay back one day. Evidently someone thought was making me a favour, actually resulted in just being suddenly attentive to something they didn't care before.
Why I say that? Because if I open YouTube and search for videos about Estonian football, then I find quite many. Like this one for instance ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPUxT_2Xuo ).
What is the problem then? Probably it didn't hit 200,000 views and so for ETV it is not a problem. So what is the level within which it is acceptable for ETV?
Obviously ETV has all the right to ask YouTube to pull it down. However it is quite evident that you should do it for each and every video that I will be able to find in YouTube from ETV. Otherwise you know what is this? This is something personal.
You might say it's not, but I hardly buy that to be honest.

'Stealing' is a big word and you should be careful in using.
If you take a look around, there are other several sources who have 'stolen' the images. They have purposedly gone on ETC website and caught the footage themselves. Additionally, they have added advertisement and this will certainly bring some money that it won't bring to RdS, stay assured.
If I shall open a pot about 'stealing' in the world of Estonian journalism, trust me, the smell coming from it will be very unpleasant.

Let me conclude with a short consideration.
These words make me simply so sad. RdS promotes actively Estonian football here and elsewhere. And I can say this happens basically and almost with no financial return (I say almost because recently we have added Google AdSense, which as of now has allowed us to buy a coffee each for next editing team meeting).

As I said, RdS has not gained a single penny from those 200,000 clicks. The return of interest on the contrary is much greater than any personal interest and jealousy at stake.

[Tom K]

Lapsed, lapsed. Ärge kakelge.

[Rumori di Spogliatoio]

Lapsed, lapsed. Ärge kakelge.

I know and I do very apologize for bringing personal stuff in here, it's not my policy.
However the gentleman here works for ETV, I know who is he very well.
However enjoys (or tried to enjoy) writing anonymously from his Soccernet account shooting statements which are quite questionable.
For me the topic is over.
He can contact me personally, he has also added me in Facebook and with a bit of effort he would also get my phone number.
I don't hide in any remote place, always at reach and available for anyone with a bit of good will.

[meesmuiste]

'Stealing' is a big word and you should be careful in using.

- well you took copyrighted material from ETV (ERR) and put your sticker over ETV logo and uploaded it to youtube, didn't you? how it is called? as much as i know no one will press any charges at the moment. people understand that it advertised Estonian league etc., but in wider plan...

to Faust: my credentials are very easy to recognize, even Angelo turned to me with my name.

I think this matter should be discussed in private from this moment and you have to understand that Estonian society is very small and basically everyone knows everyone and almost nothing goes unnoticed.

I also have to say that in other regards you are doing exellent work with promoting Premium liiga. Keep this part up.

However enjoys (or tried to enjoy) writing anonymously from his Soccernet account shooting statements which are quite questionable.

do your homework. basically in the very first post i made in Soccernet somewhere ten years ago, i revealed my identity and it hasn't been secret since.

only reason i posted here was that you basically advertised yourself here with this material. simple as that.