Serie A 2008/2009

[eika]

võib ju ebasümpaatne mängija olla, aga see ei anna õigust rassismini laskuda

Point on selles, et Balotellit mõnitati tema isiksuse ja ülbuse, mitte nahavärvi pärast. Vaata, kui Zlatani iga pallipuute peale vilistataks ja sõimataks näiteks kaamlinäoks (mida ta ka on), siis ei võeta midagi ette. Samas, kui sama asi toimub Balotelli puhul, siis on see rassism ja kõik on tagajalgadel. Ultrad võtsid täna siis sõna ja ütlesid, et nad ei kavatse vabandada. Mine sa kuradit tea, äkki väänatakse sestap veel karistust juurde. Mitte, et ma aktsepteeriks rassism, aga praegu jääb vägisi mulje, et Juventus on vaja lihtsalt patuoinaks teha.

Ja selles Ultrate pöördumises on päris hea point. Miks ei karistada Itaalia klubisid nende fännide "Liverpool, Liverpool" hüüete eest? 32 surnud Juventuse fänni mõnitamine on täiest aktsepteeritav ja selle eest ei karistata kedagi?

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The Juventus ultras group Drughi have released a statement explaining why their insults towards Mario Balotelli “were not racism and we won’t apologise.”

“We will not apologise to Balotelli, because the chants against him were a response to his provocation and general attitude on the pitch and not with regards to his origins,” announced the Drughi-Juventus Club Curva Filadelfia. This is evident by the fact that his teammates Patrick Vieira and Sulley Muntari were not even jeered at all.

For years now in almost every stadium Juve are greeted by chants of ‘Liverpool, Liverpool’, while the names of (deceased former players) Gaetano Scirea, Riccardo Neri, Alessio Ferramosca and Daniele Fortunato have been used and abused in every conceivable way, yet the media was never indignant about that.

“Racism is nothing to do with this and it was only a way, albeit debatable, to make our opponent lose his concentration. We would like to point out in our squad is an ‘ebony icon’ Momo Sissoko, who we hold in our hearts and are proud that he wears our shirt. This is why we do not feel the need to apologise. Juve-Lecce will be played behind closed doors because it had already been decided."

[Jasper]

Kõige nael on ikka Moratti hr. oleks-pidanud-ära-jalutama. Mitte ei meenu samasugused soovitused Zorole.

A rassism on paha.

[cannuman]

jaa rassism on paha. Aga kui nigga valgeid rassistiks sõima iga perse saatmise eest vot siis on see rassism. Rassistineegrid ahju.

[F.Totti]

Goal.com Special: 10 Worst Serie A Transfers 2008-09
Yesterday Goal.com brought you the 10 worst flops from the English Premier League, today Carlo Garganese offers the Serie A failures…

Some big names arrived in Italy in the summer of 2008. On the coaching side of things, arguably the joint-best club coach in the world, and certainly the most controversial and entertaining, Jose Mourinho, took charge of Inter. Meanwhile, on the playing side, Milan and Inter spent big money respectively on Barcelona's Ronaldinho and Porto's Ricardo Quaresma. Like many of the other expensive purchases, neither of these took Serie A by storm.

Any coach, player or president will try and put a positive spin on their bad buys, but when they can't even get in the team, fail to live up to their price tag, don't fit into the tactical setup or even end up lasting less than a season, it's time for one and all to hold their hands up.

But they don't - so Goal.com will do it for them.

10) Julio Baptista (Roma) – Despite scoring eight Serie A goals, including the winner in the derby, it cannot be underestimated just how costly Baptista has been to Roma’s season. Painfully inconsistent, Baptista has had his excellent moments, including a couple of wonder-goals, but these have been rare. ‘The Beast’ almost single-handedly cost the Giallorossi qualification into the quarter finals of the Champions League by missing a sitter against Arsenal.

9) Juan Pablo Carrizo (Lazio) – Carrizo was supposed to join Lazio at the start of the 2007/08 season, but passport problems meant that the move was delayed for a whole year. The 24-year-old would have done well during this period to hone his goalkeeping skills, as his time between the sticks in Rome has been full or errors. The Argentine No.1 has lost his first team place to Nestor Muslera, and will need to improve immensely if he is to win it back. Carrizo looks like a vampire, and just like the mythological creatures he hates crosses.

8) Bruno Fornaroli (Sampdoria) – Promised to be the ‘Uruguayan Pippo Inzaghi’ when he arrived in Genoa from Nacional Montevideo. Emphatically failed to live up to this tag, and it soon became clear that he was not ready for Serie A. The 21-year-old made just five Serie A appearances, scoring no goals, and was loaned out to San Lorenzo at the end of January. The player who has replaced him at the Stadio Ferraris, Giampaolo Pazzini, has been a revelation.

7) Christian Vieri (Atalanta) – The Atalanta board should have listened to their supporters, who desperately tried to prevent this free transfer from going through. The 35-year-old has spent the season either injured, counting his rolls of belly fat, out-of-form, resembling Russell Crowe, or repeatedly abused by Atalanta tifosi. With just nine appearances and two goals, it was decided earlier this month to rescind Vieri’s contract.

6) Sergio Almiron (Fiorentina) – When you take on loan a player who is famous for being one of Alessio Secco’s worst buys, do not expect Diego Maradona or Pele. Almiron has made just 12 league appearances, seven of them starts, and he has been over-run in almost every game he has appeared in. With Riccardo Montolivo also disappointing, Felipe Melo has almost single-handedly held the Viola midfield together. Almiron will return to Turin this summer, but not for long.

5) Andriy Shevchenko (Milan) – It is signings like this that lead to Serie A being tagged as a ‘retirement home’. Shevchenko had proven conclusively during two seasons at Chelsea that he was a shadow of the once world-beating Golden Ball winner. It did not take Milan long to realise that it was a mistake loaning the Ukrainian, who has made just two league starts, failing to hit the back of the net. Unlikely to make his move permanent, it is now three years since Shevchenko last scored in Serie A.

4) Simone Loria (Roma) – The worst defender in the whole of Italy, and possibly Europe, this term. Loria made so many high-profile gaffes in the early part of the season that there could almost be a Christmas bloopers video just on him. Has basically been frozen out of the squad since the turn of the year, but one wonders what possessed Roma to relinquish a very promising young midfielder in Daniele Galloppa as part of the Loria deal. Brings back memories of Inter swapping Fabio Cannavaro for Fabian Carini.

3) Amantino Mancini (Inter) – Quaresma has taken most of the flack in the blue-and-black half of Milan, but, in truth, Mancini has been just as much of a catastrophe. While Roma’s transfer campaign was very poor, one good piece of business was offloading the Brazilian, who was clearly on the wane physically. Mancini has made 16 Serie A appearances, just nine of them starts, scoring no goals. One of the reasons why Mourinho’s favoured 4-3-3 formation was scrapped was because of the sub-standard Mancini and Quaresma. The ex-Venezia man will surely be offloaded at the end of this season.

2) Christian Poulsen (Juventus) – Was there anyone who seriously believed that Poulsen would be a success? The Juventus hierarchy had spent the first half of 2008 promising a world class centre midfielder to bring the Scudetto back to Piedmont. It was no surprise that supporters felt betrayed when Poulsen was unveiled. Fans launched angry protests and erected a huge banner that read: “Ridiculous, you’ve signed another rubbish player.” The Dane has certainly matched this description – nervous, wasteful in possession, and making very few of the no-nonsense tackles he was supposedly infamous for.

1) Ricardo Quaresma (Inter) – Will go down as one of the most expensive flops in the history of Italian football. Signed from Porto for just under €20m after a summer-long soap saga, it soon became apparent that Jose Mourinho had made a big mistake. Spent the majority of games hiding away like a bullied schoolchild, when Quaresma did receive the ball, he lost it virtually every time. His confidence shot to pieces, he was loaned out to Chelsea in January where he has continued to disappoint. Luiz Felipe Scolari’s decision to call him was perhaps the final sign that the Gene Hackman-lookalike had lost the plot at Stamford Bridge. He was sacked not long after.

[Bob_Loblaw]

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Point on selles, et Balotellit mõnitati tema isiksuse ja ülbuse, mitte nahavärvi pärast. Vaata, kui Zlatani iga pallipuute peale vilistataks ja sõimataks näiteks kaamlinäoks (mida ta ka on), siis ei võeta midagi ette.

Et kui mängija on jõle vastik ja juhuslikult mustanahaline siis on õigustatud teda kutsuda ala räpane pärdik, limane ahv jne ?

[Tofoa]

Et kui mängija on jõle vastik ja juhuslikult mustanahaline siis on õigustatud teda kutsuda ala räpane pärdik, limane ahv jne ?

Jah !

[cannuman]

Teatavasti on Juvel endal on nii praegu kui varem ööTimosid koosseisus olnud. Kas neid siis kas mängu jala ahvideks sõimatakse ja pähklitega kostitatakse?

[eika]

Et kui mängija on jõle vastik ja juhuslikult mustanahaline siis on õigustatud teda kutsuda ala räpane pärdik, limane ahv jne ?

Teda hüüti limaseks ahviks? Sellisel juhul on sul õigus ja see käitumine on tõepoolest liig.

Aga mina olen aru saanud, et jama tuli hüüete pärast "Pole sellist asja nagu mustanahaline itaallane". Arvestades seda, et mees on sünnipärane ghaanalane, siis on selles hüüdes ka omajagu tõtt sees, eksole. Ja need hüüded tulid ainult ja ainult seepärast, et Balotelli mängis äärmiselt ülbet ja paukuvat jalgpalli. Ja kui sa mängid nii, siis ole valmis tagajärgedeks- ma pole tähele pannud, et Gattusso kuhugi meediasse nutma oleks tulnud, et teda noritakse välimuse pärast. Põhimõtteliselt võiks ka Tiago viimases mängus saadud punase tagamaid uurima hakata. Miks ta mängis ohtlikult just Balotelli vastu? Fashist, raisk.

Ja Itaalia staadionitel toimub palju hullematki (ärgu Lazio fännid mulle turja hüpaku, aga kui ma ei eksi, siis mõned nende Ultrad tegid veel üsna hiljuti ahvihäälitsusi isegi oma mängijatele), aga miskipärast otsustati just Juventus ette võtta. Kurat, bännigu siis see vastav Ultrarühmitus paariks mänguks, mitte ärgu karistagu tervet klubi.

Liiga suur karistus, liiga vähese eest.

[cannuman]

minuarust võiks ka nagu konkreedsete isikute vastu oma karistustegevused suunata.

Kui mingi eestlane keset AlexanderPlazi roojab, siis Eesti euroopa liidust välja visata?

[eika]

Kusjuures praeguses olukorras on asi eriti lihtne- Kindel ultragrupp on vastutuse enda peale võtnud ja ei plaani vabandada. Paarimänguline bänn neile ja asi lahendatud.

[cannuman]

sellisel juhul muidugi.

[Jasper]

Ja kui sa mängid nii, siis ole valmis tagajärgedeks- ma pole tähele pannud, et Gattusso kuhugi meediasse nutma oleks tulnud, et teda noritakse välimuse pärast.

õu, Rino pole nii mänginud ka. Ja Materazzi on muidu sel teemal meedias nutnud küll

[vendetta]

Minule on alati jäänud veidi tumedaks (excuse the pun) see rassismi teema. Palju nuttu ja hala aga vähe loogilist lähenemist. OK, banner kirjaga ''limased ahvid aafrikasse tagasi'' ja banaanidega loopimine peavad olema välistatud, samuti see, et terve tribüün ''chandib'' mingi inimese kauge sugulasliigi paaritushüüdeid. See on asi, mille eest konkreetset klubi saab süüdistada. Aga nüüd variant, et mingi väiksem grupp kedagi isiklikult solvab? Hea näide on rumeenlased itaalias, on endalegi tv'st kõrva jäänud paar korda kui Mutule karjutakse ''mustlane'' mingi surnud palli olukorra ajal, no ja siis?

diskleimer kah, mulle meeldib lõuna-ameerika jalka, seal on täitsa normaalne pilt, et külalismeeskonna nurgalöögi andjat kaitseb märulipolitsei oma kilpidega, muidu visataks ta lihtsalt vigaseks nurgalipu juures, seda mida rahvas karjub ma parem üldse ei hakka arutamagi

[vendetta]

Genoa teemat ei hakanud silma, paistab, et hoolimata Milito naasmisest on aur otsas ja vahepeal kindlana tundunud CL jääb ära, Bologna vastu ei ole hetkel seda moodigi, et mängu tagasi tullakse.

[Maarek]

Genoa teemat ei hakanud silma, paistab, et hoolimata Milito naasmisest on aur otsas ja vahepeal kindlana tundunud CL jääb ära, Bologna vastu ei ole hetkel seda moodigi, et mängu tagasi tullakse.

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Kolmest CL kohale konkureerivast meeskonnast lahkus võiduga vaid Fiorentina, kes 3 punkti kaugusele tõusnud Romale 4-1 koti pähe tõmbas

Fiorentina tõusis selle suurepärase mängu abil 4. positsioonile, aga täna oli Genoa kord, kes Bologna külastuselt noruspäi tagasi tuli, sest kuivalt 0-2 kaotas.

5 mänguvooru veel siis jäänud ja tuleval nädalal võtab Fiorentina koduplatsil vastu relegatsioonilatist kõrgemale üritava Torino vastu võtab. Genoa ja Roma mängivad samutu kodus ja esimene võtab vastu karikafinalist Sampdoria ja Roma üritab midagi korda saata relegatsioonipiirist nõks kõrgemal asuva Chievo vastu.