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Täna oli siis Triobetis selline hea bet üleval:
Bayern München - Real Madrid (Team with most cards)
Equal 1.7
Bayern München 3.10
Real Madrid 5.25
Muidugi tuli mõlemad meeskonnad valida. Väga hea value. Hiljem aga avastasin, et mu Real Madridile tehtud panus on tühistatud ja Bayerni oma endiselt jõus. Läksin siis Live Chati oma murega, kus selgus järgmine:
* Nad muudavad Terms & Conditione, siis kui neil tuju tuleb ja kuidas iganes tahavad, ilma, et kedagi teavitaks.
* Nad võivad ükskõik millise panuse tühistada ja öelda, et tegu oli eksitusega.
* Nende reeglid räägivad üksteise vastu ning valitakse see kumb parasjagu nagu neile kasulik on.
* Vytautas: our site our rules
Lisaks tahtsin, et nad siis mu Bayerni peale pandud raha samamoodi tagastaks, sest see oli tehtud ainult nende juba tühistatud panuse tõttu.
Kogu vestlus on saadaval siin: http://bin.mtv.pri.ee/Triobet.txt
Väljanoppeid:
Vytautas: but regarding the rules, we are able to cancel all tickets or bets with wrong odds
Mihkel: this makes no sense...this way you could cancel all bets and say that we had wrong odds
Vytautas: no, we can not
Mihkel: you just said that you have the right to cancel all tickets that have wrong odds
Vytautas: correct
Mihkel: and who is there to tell if the odds are correct or not?
Vytautas: you can see by yourself, comparing odds on both sides
Mihkel: I have no way to know, I do not know how odds are calculatedVytautas: you made bet on both sides knowing you will win in any case
Mihkel: no, I wont win in any case
Mihkel: if the number of cards is tied, I do not winMihkel: So basically, you are telling me, that whenever there is a threat that you have to make a slightly bigger payout, you just canccel the ticket and say that you are sorry but the odds were wrong.
Vytautas: all i am saying there is there is a mistake in odds, we will cancel it, so if you will place a bet knowing it, there is no reason to complain later on
Mihkel: and how exactly should I know if these are really good odds or another mistake done by you?
Mihkel: or should I stop betting on anything higher than 2?
Vytautas: you can bet on any odds you want
Mihkel: I can't, you cancel them when you wantVytautas: only following the rules, nothing else
Mihkel: 3.4. Triobet offers single bets on all gaming objects, and the odds is guaranteed once a customer confirms the bet. However, Triobet reserves the right to change the odds on the objects being offered. Of course a customer keeps the odds on his/hers confirmed bet even if a change will be made later on.
Mihkel: there is a rule from your terms and condition
Mihkel: or does it not count?
Vytautas: 3.3 We reserve the right to deny accepting any bet. An already accepted bet can be cancelled if it does not comply with the Rules or if there is an obvious misprint from our point. In such circumstances a bet can even be cancelled after the result has been confirmed.
Vytautas: and what this rule is about?
Vytautas: Is there anything else I can help you?
Mihkel: Yes, I want my bet to be reinstated.Mihkel: I find it really weird that you punish a loyal costumer like this as I have been using your site for years now, taking part of your bonus offers, playing poker etc. and one they, out of the blue, you just backstab me like this.
Mihkel: And now, when this bet is canceled, I might find my other bet not reasonable anymore and this makes me loose money once again.
Mihkel: one day* sorry
Vytautas: if you bet you thought you gonna win
Vytautas: match is not over yet
Vytautas: it means your bet is not lost yet
Mihkel: I bet because I saw good odds. So I rather bet on value than thinking Im going to win this for sure.
Vytautas: Is there anything else I can help you?
Mihkel: Yes, please work on the issue we have been talking about the last 15 minutes.Mihkel: I doubt that there are many people asking for the bet to be reinstated
Vytautas: we apology for any inconvenience
Vytautas: no, not at all
Mihkel: so the likelihood that you will have to pay for your mistake is 0 but client will always have to pay for theirs.
Mihkel: I get it now.
Mihkel: Clients are not worth of anything.Vytautas: rules are always online and there is always possibility to check them again and again
Mihkel: That is a good point! So I should not be livebetting because during the 10 seconds while you confirm the bet, you can change the Terms & Conditions and make a rule that all bets on this league, are not paid out.
Mihkel: So not only are you not taking any responsility for your mistakes, you also say that you can changes the rules whenever and however you want.
Vytautas: if you would think ir real like this you never would make any bet
Vytautas: right, we can change rules at any time- it's written in rules as well
Mihkel: Good. This has been eye opening for me.Mihkel: I do understand that you cannot do anything. Do you have a supervisor who I could talk to?
Vytautas: you can sedn an email if you would like support@triobet.com write to whom you want forward us the email and we will do it for you
Mihkel: Ok, thank you!
Vytautas: You are welcome
Vytautas: have a nice day
Mihkel: Do not go yet.
Mihkel: There is another issue.
Mihkel: I want my other ticket to canceled then as well.
Vytautas: sorry, but we can not cancel bet
Mihkel: Yes you can cancel a bet. We just went over it. You cancel 0.74 per cent of my bets.
Vytautas: it has to be a reason
Mihkel: You have a reason. I only made the bet because of the first one.Mihkel: So if I can't ask the bet to be canceled, should I ask for refund when the bet misses?
Vytautas: you mean after bet lose?
Mihkel: Yes, I would even accept a balancing after I hit the bet so I do not get any extra money because this would be FAIR but you might now know anything about that...
Vytautas: Is there anything else I can help you?
Mihkel: Yes, cancel my second bet or confirm that I will get refund/balanced after this?Vytautas: have a nice day
Mihkel: I hope I didn't ruin yours so have a nice day as well!
Vytautas: I hope you really will understand the situation
Mihkel: I do. You make a mistake and won't have any responsibilty for it.
Vytautas: because we follow the rules, nothing else
Mihkel: The rules you made and you changes whenever you want.
Vytautas: our site our rulesEelistan Eesti vutti võõrale. Olgu see siis koondisemängud või ka meie oma ML. Kui hakkaksin ManU fänniks, siis ei muutuks sellest põhimõtteliselt mitte midagi. Oleksin üks kübe ookeanitäiest poolehoidjatest. Rooneyl on rohkem kui ükskõik, kas sa istud oma kulunud ManU särgiga pubis või mitte. Siin on iga fänn kullahinnaga ja kohalike klubisid toetades saad reaalselt midagist korda saata. Ja kui välismaalastel kõlbab siin mängida, siis mis perse pärast mul ei kõlba mänge vaatamas käia? - Myrgel
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Ma eeldan mängu tulemusest, et nad nüüd ikka tühistasid selle Bayerni beti."The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It’s nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It’s about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom". - Danny Blanchflower, legend
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