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    Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
    Mis te nutate ette sellepärast, et Webb vilistab ? Kõik oleks ju viks-vonks, kui ta ManU kasuks võidu vilistab. Seda kutsutakse karmaks .
    oot, aga united ei peagi oma karmavõlga kunagi maksma v?

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      Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
      Mis te nutate ette sellepärast, et Webb vilistab ? Kõik oleks ju viks-vonks, kui ta ManU kasuks võidu vilistab. Seda kutsutakse karmaks .
      Üks tühine mäng ja kohe nii leilis? Viies kord vist ütlen, aga kasva suureks. Elu läheb edasi. Barca pole oma karmavõlga siiani tasunud. Tundub, et tekib seda krediiti pigem juurde.

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        Algselt postitas ChelseaFC Vaata postitust
        Üks tühine mäng ja kohe nii leilis? Viies kord vist ütlen, aga kasva suureks. Elu läheb edasi. Barca pole oma karmavõlga siiani tasunud. Tundub, et tekib seda krediiti pigem juurde.
        Fcking TÜHINE mäng my ass ! See TÜHINE mäng ongi ainus põhjus miks Chelseal on veel (reaalne)võimalus tiitlile heidelda !
        Ma enam-väham ikka olengi "üle saanud" aga lihtsalt selline teema ajab harja punaseks, et "nüüd tuleb kuri Howard Webb ja teeb meile liiga, nagu meile alati tehakse, sest kõik on meie vastu" !

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          Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
          Fcking TÜHINE mäng my ass ! See TÜHINE mäng ongi ainus põhjus miks Chelseal on veel (reaalne)võimalus tiitlile heidelda !
          Ma enam-väham ikka olengi "üle saanud" aga lihtsalt selline teema ajab harja punaseks, et "nüüd tuleb kuri Howard Webb ja teeb meile liiga, nagu meile alati tehakse, sest kõik on meie vastu" !
          Selliseid asju juhtub ju nädalast nädalasse ja iga klubi on sellest ju mingil määral kasu lõiganud. Väita, et ainult selle mängu tõttu on Chelsea´l veel võimalus ja Spurs on väljas on ju natuke tobe. Mis olnuks, kui Fulham vs Chelsea mängus oleks kohtunik andnud pendla kui Hangeland mänis kastis kõike muud kui palli? Mäng jäi 0-0. Mis olnuks, kui Chelsea saanuks Liverpooli vastu pendla, kui Skrtel tahtis Ivanovici särki nii väga juba enne mängu lõppu? Mäng jäi 1-0 Liverpoolile. Kindlasti on ka Spurs saanud nii häid kui halbu otsuseid. Nii et kogu hooaeg ühe mängu kaela ajada on ikka väga tuim.


          Kui nüüd minna aga teema juurde tagasi, siis reservidel on täna võimalus liigatiitel võtta, kui suudetakse võita Man City´t. Isegi kui täna võitu tulema ei peaks, siis järgmine esmaspäev Wolves´iga on viimane mäng, kus samuti võit tooks tiitli. Arsenal on 35 punkti peal samal ajal kui meie omad on 33 peal. Samas on kahuritel kõik mängud mängitud ja meil, nagu juba mainitud, 2 veel pidada. Loodetavasti mingit major cock-upi ei tule ja tiitel ikkagi ära võetakse.

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            Algselt postitas ChelseaFC Vaata postitust
            Selliseid asju juhtub ju nädalast nädalasse ja iga klubi on sellest ju mingil määral kasu lõiganud. Väita, et ainult selle mängu tõttu on Chelsea´l veel võimalus ja Spurs on väljas on ju natuke tobe. Mis olnuks, kui Fulham vs Chelsea mängus oleks kohtunik andnud pendla kui Hangeland mänis kastis kõike muud kui palli? Mäng jäi 0-0. Mis olnuks, kui Chelsea saanuks Liverpooli vastu pendla, kui Skrtel tahtis Ivanovici särki nii väga juba enne mängu lõppu? Mäng jäi 1-0 Liverpoolile. Kindlasti on ka Spurs saanud nii häid kui halbu otsuseid. Nii et kogu hooaeg ühe mängu kaela ajada on ikka väga tuim.
            No juhtubki selliseid asju, aga on vahe ka selles kas juhtub Eesti kolmandas liigas, või MM-i finaalis. Ma väidan seda, et tänu (muidugi mitte ainult) sellele mängule on Chelseal võimalus tiitlit püüda. Kui antud mäng oleks lõppenud Spursi võiduga ei oleks Chelseal enam reaalset võimalust tiitli eest heidelda. Jama ? Ei ütleks. Objektiivse poolehoidjana ei väida ma sugugi, et Spurs ainult selle mängu pärast väljas on, siin on palju hullemaid tulemusi olnud. Aga kui nüüd Chelsea kahtlase otsuse pärast uuesti tiitlikonurentsist pudeneks, siis halaksite ka siin kõik veel sada korda hullemini ju.

            Ühesõnaga minu point oli nüüd see, et ei tasu teil viriseda, kui Webb teeb ManU kasuks mängu ära, sest nagu sa isegi ütlesid - kõik tiimid on saanud sellest nii kahju kui kasu. Halenaljakas on ju antud olukorras ettevirisemist lugeda, kui just eelnevas voorus on kohtunikud teie kasuks mängu teinud.

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              Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
              Ühesõnaga
              objektiivsusest rääkides
              see ei ole minu süü, et sa okaspuu oled

              "joon palju ma tahan, aga ikka ta ei saa minust aru"

              "Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple."

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                Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
                Ühesõnaga minu point oli nüüd see, et ei tasu teil viriseda, kui Webb teeb ManU kasuks mängu ära, sest nagu sa isegi ütlesid - kõik tiimid on saanud sellest nii kahju kui kasu. Halenaljakas on ju antud olukorras ettevirisemist lugeda, kui just eelnevas voorus on kohtunikud teie kasuks mängu teinud.
                Kuule mõtle uuesti või jää vait.

                Kuidas on Sulle jäänud mulje, et ainult Chelsea kasuks tehakse otsuseid, jääb mulle mõistatuseks. Vaadake ManU eelmist mängu Arsenali vastu, seal oleks reeglite kohaselt pidanud Vidic punase saama ning Arsenal penalti. Lisaks ChelseaFC poolt toodud näited vilepartiide kohta, nende kohta on Sul ainult öelda "No juhtubki selliseid asju". Selective memory?

                Chelsea fännide poolt on käinud läbi mõte, et loodame, et TULEB AUS ja NAUDITAV mäng, mis ei tekitaks kõneainet valedel põhjustel - silmnähtavad möödavilistamised, näitlemised, kaklused jne. Howard Webb on kahtlemata profesionaalne kohtunik, kuid kõik võivad eksida ja "ühesõnaga minu point on see", et pühapäevane mäng oleks sellistest juhtumistest prii. Elame-näeme.

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                  Ja sõbralik patsutus õlale kallile Yossi Benayounile, kes täna 31-aastaseks sai!

                  Palju õnne, Benny!

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                    Algselt postitas Metsaj Vaata postitust
                    Kuule mõtle uuesti või jää vait.

                    Kuidas on Sulle jäänud mulje, et ainult Chelsea kasuks tehakse otsuseid, jääb mulle mõistatuseks. Vaadake ManU eelmist mängu Arsenali vastu, seal oleks reeglite kohaselt pidanud Vidic punase saama ning Arsenal penalti. Lisaks ChelseaFC poolt toodud näited vilepartiide kohta, nende kohta on Sul ainult öelda "No juhtubki selliseid asju". Selective memory?

                    Chelsea fännide poolt on käinud läbi mõte, et loodame, et TULEB AUS ja NAUDITAV mäng, mis ei tekitaks kõneainet valedel põhjustel - silmnähtavad möödavilistamised, näitlemised, kaklused jne. Howard Webb on kahtlemata profesionaalne kohtunik, kuid kõik võivad eksida ja "ühesõnaga minu point on see", et pühapäevane mäng oleks sellistest juhtumistest prii. Elame-näeme.
                    Mida Sa ajad ? Oled lugenud eelnevaid poste ka ?? Ei ole jäänud sugugi sellist muljet, et otsuseid ainult Chelsea kasuks tehakse. Jah, oleks pidanud küll saama punase, aga see ei muutnud mängu võitjat, Arsenal teenis sealt ikkagi võidu, Chelsea poleks aga Spusi mängust õiglase vile korral punktigi saanud. Ja see, märkus et "selliseid asju juhtubki" oli nõustumine kasutaja ChelseaFC-ga. Mulle millegipärast tundub, et sa ei üritagi aru saada mida ma silmas pean.
                    Aga Chelsea fännide poolt on läbi käinud ka mõtte et "oh-my-god-nüüd-tuleb-webb-ja teeb-meile-liiga-nagu-alati-tehakse" ja mina tahtsingi selle peale öelda, et kui tehakse siis nagu kasutaja ChelseaFC ütles - selliseid asju juhtub ja ei tasu viriseda. Panimaješ ?

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                      Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
                      Mida Sa ajad ? Oled lugenud eelnevaid poste ka ?? Ei ole jäänud sugugi sellist muljet, et otsuseid ainult Chelsea kasuks tehakse. Jah, oleks pidanud küll saama punase, aga see ei muutnud mängu võitjat, Arsenal teenis sealt ikkagi võidu, Chelsea poleks aga Spusi mängust õiglase vile korral punktigi saanud. Ja see, märkus et "selliseid asju juhtubki" oli nõustumine kasutaja ChelseaFC-ga. Mulle millegipärast tundub, et sa ei üritagi aru saada mida ma silmas pean.
                      Aga Chelsea fännide poolt on läbi käinud ka mõtte et "oh-my-god-nüüd-tuleb-webb-ja teeb-meile-liiga-nagu-alati-tehakse" ja mina tahtsingi selle peale öelda, et kui tehakse siis nagu kasutaja ChelseaFC ütles - selliseid asju juhtub ja ei tasu viriseda. Panimaješ ?
                      Sa ajad vist Chelseat teise Londoni tiimiga sassi.

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                        Algselt postitas rainis007 Vaata postitust
                        Chelsea poleks aga Spusi mängust õiglase vile korral punktigi saanud.
                        Oot, sa tead täpselt kuidas mängukäik oleks kulgenud, kui 1. väravat poleks loetud?

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                          Reservid peavad shampa külmas hoidma, kuna Manchesterist tuldi tagasi koguni 4-0 kaotusega city vastu. Üks tabav sõna mängu kohta on "vigastused". Sebek suutis väljakul vastu pidada pisut üle pooltunni ja lasi selle ajaga 2 selja taha. Olid ka meil omad võimalused, aga ei tea kas Given väravas või midagi muud ei lasknud sel pallil puuri minna. Joshilt oma standardite kohta suht kasin mäng ning kuna Chalobah on U17 koondise juures, siis tunti ka temast seal keskväljal puudust.

                          Chelsea (4-3-3): Jan Sebek (Jamal Blackman 37); Todd Kane, Tomas Kalas, Carl Magnay, Ryan Bertrand (c); Conor Clifford, Michael Woods, Josh McEachran; Gokhan Tore, Milan Lalkovic (Marko Mitrovic 80), Adam Phillip (George Saville 86).

                          Esmaspäeval on poistel siiski võimalik Bridge´l liigavõit ära vormistada. Vaja vaid liiga punane latern Wolves alistada. Antud koosseis peaks olema küll piisav, et sellega ka edukalt toime tulla.

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                            Kapten andis kodulehele 500 mängu puhul päris pika ja asjaliku intervjuu. Legend!

                            What is your main memory of your first day as a full-time trainee at Chelsea?
                            I was very nervous. I remember walking in and knowing the other guys having played on schoolboy forms with them already. We were delegated our duties for the year and mine were to clean three first-team dressing rooms at the training ground and I was on the kit as well for matchdays. I also had to clean three players' boots and I got Dennis Wise, Dave Lee and Eddie Newton. The first day's training wasn't much, a light jog and some tests.

                            Looking back after 500 games, how do you now view your full debut?
                            It is difficult to remember really but the day before the game [manager] Luca Vialli put me into the team shape in training and then [coach] Graham Rix spoke to me after the training and said that I was starting at right-back. That was strange because I had already come on as a sub in the Carling Cup at centre-back and came on against Southampton in the league as holding midfielder. Then I made my first start at right back, in an FA Cup match away at Oldham which was a hostile atmosphere but I felt I did okay and it was a good 2-0 win.

                            Can you still replay every moment of your first goal in your mind?
                            Yes, I remember it really well. It was against Gillingham at home in the FA Cup and from a Franco Zola corner. He whipped it in and I made my run towards the near post and I just remember thinking wow, I have got a free header here inside the box. I headed it down and thankfully it went between the goalkeeper's legs and I then darted to the crowd and grabbed the nearest supporter I could.

                            How does the first cup final you played in, the 2002 Cardiff FA Cup Final against Arsenal now rank in terms of disappointment?
                            Probably not that highly now but at the time it felt like the end of the world. As the club later became more successful we grew as a team and I did as an individual as well, and we went onto bigger and better things. We went on to win the FA Cup which is a tough task. As an Englishman I grew up watching it so obviously I was very upset at the time at Cardiff but as you go onto other big finals and Premier League titles, that part of the past is forgotten really.

                            What were you thinking when you knew the club was in financial difficulty at the end of the 2002/03 season?
                            We knew it was a must to make the Champions League.We were told that before the final game of the season against Liverpool so the guys knew how much was on it, but with the home advantage we fancied our chances and the goals from Marcel [Desailly] and Jesper [Gronkjaer] saw us through. Before we were told the situation I knew little bits. I was quite young but you would listen to the older players and there were some honest conversations going on, and you knew there were meetings. It was a case of make or break for the football club because if we got Champions League football the club were pretty sure they had someone to come in and take over and then put a lot of money and time into the football club, and we have not looked back since really. Roman [Abramovich] came in and what he did for the football club put us where we are today.

                            When you were left on the bench for the first Champions League group stage match of the Abramovich era, away to Sparta Prague, was that the last time you truly felt your place in the side was under long-term threat?
                            It was definitely a strange one. I remember Frank and I sitting together with Eidur Gudjohnsen in the team meeting and when the team was put up we gave each other a little nudge. But although we were very surprised not to be in it we have always been good professionals and there was no moaning. Frank and I didn't have any experience in the Champions League and whether that had any part to play I don't know, but Lamps came on and made a big impact. Willie Gallas scored a winner so the manager [Claudio Ranieri] maybe got it right on the day but the only way we were going to get Champions League experience was to play, but we respected the manager's decision, he spoke to us both after the game and we have not looked back since really and have not been left out. That is due to our good form and success and the willingness to maintain it at the top. It is not rocket science. If I am playing badly I expect to be left out of the team regardless of being the captain. If I am playing well then I expect to be playing.

                            Apart from the Bolton game, what is your favourite memory of the first Championship win?
                            The Blackburn game away in the February when we won 1-0 and Jose [Mourinho] came onto the pitch and told us to throw our shirts to the fans who had travelled everywhere with us. That match let everyone know that we were getting the job done. It was live on telly, a night game at Blackburn is a tough one so it sent a message and that was a special night. Apart from that just the football in general. We played Norwich at home that year and played some unbelievable football and won 4-0. As well as the attacking play we also kept so many clean sheets and set a record by conceding only 15 goals.

                            Did having won the league at Bolton in 2005 a few days before the Champions League game at Anfield have an effect on that?
                            I am not sure because we didn't celebrate, we stayed up around that area so that night when we got back after the Bolton game the manager sat everyone down and we had a glass of champagne and that was it, we went to bed. We won the league, it was a great occasion there as we left the stadium but once we got to the hotel it was right, Liverpool. The team meeting the next morning was about Liverpool and we prepared ourselves right for it, but we didn't have that little bit of luck you certainly need in that big competition.

                            The second league title seemed relatively straight-forward. Was it?
                            It felt as though everybody feared us, we were playing some unbelievable football and the manager made some really good signings as well for that season. Also the players that weren't playing were important. They trained really well every day and kept the pressure on the players who were in the team and that squad morale was incredible at the time. That was credit to what Jose had done and credit to those players.

                            Last season, the Double year, looked at times like it was a lot of fun.
                            Yeah, it was a lot of fun. We ran away at the top very early and people were saying it is over after 10 games, but we had a little bit of a blip. But we picked ourselves up and hit some really good form at the right time towards the end. It was probably the best form I have seen with the results and the free-flowing play. The amount of goals we were scoring home and away was incredible. Each season you know you are going to hit a bad spell and it is about how quickly you can get out of it. We got out of it very quickly last year and have taken a little bit longer this year but once again we are right back in the frame. It was good the way we went about things last season but the other championship-winning seasons it was us against everybody and nobody liked Chelsea going and winning it in Jose's first year. Everyone wanted to beat us week in week out and there really was no easy game. We had to dig and fight and we did it very well and I enjoyed that part of it as well.

                            You've played 50 games or more in five of the last seven seasons. How do you feel at the end of each one?
                            I feel alright actually. Last year was difficult because I had two and a half weeks off. This year we are hoping to get four weeks off so it will be a full recovery for us and I am looking forward to that. Pre-season is different now, you can't go away for two or three weeks and do nothing and then come back and expect to be ready. For players in this day and age, if you get a month off you might have two weeks completely off and the rest of it you are training and getting ready for pre-season so you don't pick up those little niggles and little knocks. You are coming back fairly ready and fairly fit and that is what I intend to do.

                            Best advice received over the course of those 500 games?
                            Just to train and work hard every day and give everything.

                            What must you achieve?
                            Win the Champions League, win a competition with England whether it be the Euros or the World Cup, and just keep winning trophies. There is going to be a time when I move on and I retire from the game and it is important the mentality remains, that people realise how special Chelsea Football Club is. I must make sure as the captain and as the player who has been here the longest that when people come to this football club they know what it is all about and how much it means to the fans. I must make sure we keep that drive and mentality of winning for not just the next five years but for the next 10 or 15 years, keep the guys aiming to win trophies.

                            Over the 500 games, the results away from home compare favourably with the home ones, which is unusual in football. What is behind that?
                            It is difficult to keep winning away games. If you look teams going to Blackpool this year, when teams come up from the Championship with the small stadiums, different atmospheres, or there are night games, early kick-offs - it can all have an effect. I am not too sure why we have always done so well on the road the last few years. The managers obviously deserve credit for it and also the determination of the lads and we always get a great following as well away from home. When you play in other team's stadiums you can feel everyone is against you and sometimes that gets you up and gets you at it from the word go and helps you to start games well.

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                              Have there been periods when as a team you have been absolutely flying, knowing you were going into a game and could not lose?
                              Yeah, quite a lot. Those first couple of years we won the league definitely and probably every season at some stage I have that feeling and sensation that we can't lose a game. When you are feeling like that it is important to remind yourself not to get complacent and not to let other people around you get complacent. You realise that when you talk to other players away at England games. You realise how much they want to beat the best clubs and prove themselves playing against the best players. When you hear that it makes you realise that when you go away to grounds like Blackpool and West Brom and Aston Villa, it is very tough and the players are certainly really up for it.

                              Best thing you've seen one of your Chelsea team mates do?
                              I have seen some great goals over my time. Eidur's overhead kick versus Leeds, Frank's goal against Bayern Munich which was a great ball from Maka and a great chest and left-foot volley from Lamps, Michael Essien's against Barcelona. There have been some great nights and some great occasions and I want to say one of the Champions League ones so I will probably give it to Lamps. We were on a good run and beating Bayern Munich who were quite physical and a good side was tough - and Frank pulled off a bit of magic.

                              Who is going to end up with the most appearances - you or Frank?
                              Just on age I will have to say me but he has certainly got a few years left in him. We joke about it but we both want to catch Chopper's total. Who knows if that is possible but that is our target and we will keep making sure we give ourselves the best opportunity to go on and play as many games as possible.

                              Who has felt the biggest rival over the 500 games - Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool or Barcelona?
                              Actually for me, I am going say it has to be Spurs domestically. European it obviously has to be Barcelona.

                              Your best goal?
                              Against Barcelona when we won 4-2 at home. We went 3-0 up early and they pulled it back but then Damien Duff took a corner and I remember signalling. I made my run to the near post and just glanced it in and it was a great night to beat them because they had some unbelievable players at the peak of their games. The result was perfect and my goal was the icing on the cake, and it was just a great night.

                              You've passed a lot of milestones but does the 500-game one seem special?
                              Yeah, hugely. It does feel a great achievement when you look and see that it is only players like Peter Bonetti , Chopper Harris, John Hollins and Lamps above me and think about what those guys have done. I've been an awful long time at this football club and I'm proud of the loyalty factor because you don't get that a lot in this day and age. I'm also proud of the fact that Chelsea is such a big club and I've played regularly at the top and kept myself fit and healthy enough to play that amount of games. I am only 30 and I hope I still have a lot of games in me and many more years ahead of me. As you said, I have played at least 50 games in five out of seven seasons and if I can keep that going then it puts me up there with the greats of the football club.

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