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  • Pints
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    Molnupiravir efektiivsus 50%, Ivermektiini trialite keskmine 67% . Ühele tehakse lihtsalt kövasti downplayd. Oleks see Ivermektiin ka tonnine drug oleks ammu load olemas ja sul söbrad sööksid esimesi tablette
    Miks Merck peaks efektiivsust märgatavalt maha keerama?
    Olgu mainitud, et oleks äge küll kui miskit töötavat valmis saadakse.

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  • kaala
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    Molnupiravir efektiivsus 50%, Ivermektiini trialite keskmine 67% . Ühele tehakse lihtsalt kövasti downplayd. Oleks see Ivermektiin ka tonnine drug oleks ammu load olemas ja sul söbrad sööksid esimesi tablette

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  • Pints
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    Miks nad peaksidki? Mis meditsiinifirmat esmalt motiveeribki, raha vöi inimeste ravimine? Könekas on hoopis see, et nad just tulid välja 700 daalase (40x omahinnast) ravimiga, mille tulemused pole kuidagi paremad Ivermektiinist, mis maksab 29 daala. Milleks müüa juba töestatud ja odavat, kui saab teha uue ja 25x kallima.


    https://theintercept.com/2021/10/05/...rck-ridgeback/
    Need "40 korda omahinnast kallimad" pealkirjad ei arvesta tihti tootearenduse ja investeeringutega. Molnupiraviri (katsed alles käivad) ja ivermectini ma võrrelda ei oska muidugi. FDA AdCom 30 november, eks siis kuuleb alles.

    Dr. Stephen Griffin, virologist and associate professor at the University of Leeds (here), told Reuters that molnupiravir is not repackaged ivermectin.

    The two drugs have “dissimilar chemistry,” he said. “There is no way that Merck is doing this,” he said.

    “Molnupiravir is a derivative of a nucleotide that, predictably, interferes with the RNA replication of the virus. While Ivermectin does also have a defined mechanism of action, BUT it’s against ion channels found in parasites,” Griffin said.

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  • kaala
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    Muidugi on see ka inimestele mõeldud, üks levinumaid parasiidiravimeid.
    Merck siiani kontrollib kõiki teadustõid (ilmselt) aga see et nad pole pidanud vajalikuks uut statementi teha on üsna kõnekas.
    Miks nad peaksidki? Mis meditsiinifirmat esmalt motiveeribki, raha vöi inimeste ravimine? Könekas on hoopis see, et nad just tulid välja 700 daalase (40x omahinnast) ravimiga, mille tulemused pole kuidagi paremad Ivermektiinist, mis maksab 29 daala. Milleks müüa juba töestatud ja odavat, kui saab teha uue ja 25x kallima.


    The Covid-19 treatment molnupiravir was developed using funding from the National Institutes of Health and the Department of Defense.

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  • Pints
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    Veebruaris kirjutasid? Enamus need trialid peale seda olnud ju. Küsimusele ei oska vastata. Kui sain kohe mitmelt poolt söimata, kui julgesin öelda, et see on ka inimeste ravim ja juba aastaid, siis see näitab lihtsalt et see on tugevalt poliitiliselt ja emotsionaalselt laetud teema
    Muidugi on see ka inimestele mõeldud, üks levinumaid parasiidiravimeid.
    Merck siiani kontrollib kõiki teadustõid (ilmselt) aga see et nad pole pidanud vajalikuks uut statementi teha on üsna kõnekas.

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  • kaala
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    Merck on siis kari lolle, kes tasuta raha ei soovi?

    KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

    - No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    - No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    - A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

    We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
    Veebruaris kirjutasid? Enamus need trialid peale seda olnud ju. Küsimusele ei oska vastata. Kui sain kohe mitmelt poolt söimata, kui julgesin öelda, et see on ka inimeste ravim ja juba aastaid, siis see näitab lihtsalt et see on tugevalt poliitiliselt ja emotsionaalselt laetud teema

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  • Pints
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    Mtea ma küll leidsin kohe infot, et ei ole ainult persekukkunud ussirohi koeradele ja hobustele. Aga kütke edasi, Kui uudisejupis on Helme nimi siis järelikult on köik täispask millele tuleb vastu vöidelda

    "The paper summarized the results of a clinical trial seeming to show that ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 death rates by more than 90%1 — among the largest studies of the drug’s ability to treat COVID-19 to date. But on 14 July, after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of “ethical concerns”.

    Ahmed Elgazzar at Benha University in Egypt, who is one of the authors on the paper, told Nature he was not given a chance to defend his work before it was removed.

    "Carlos Chaccour, a global-health researcher at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health in Spain, says it has been difficult to conduct rigorous studies on ivermectin. That’s partly because funders and academics in wealthy countries haven’t supported them, and, he suspects, have often dismissed trials of ivermectin because most of them have been done in lower-income countries. "



    Conclusions:
    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin.



    The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro

    Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity …



    https://c19ivermectin.com/
    Merck on siis kari lolle, kes tasuta raha ei soovi?

    KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

    - No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    - No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    - A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

    We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

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  • kaala
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    Mtea ma küll leidsin kohe infot, et ei ole ainult persekukkunud ussirohi koeradele ja hobustele. Aga kütke edasi, Kui uudisejupis on Helme nimi siis järelikult on köik täispask millele tuleb vastu vöidelda

    "The paper summarized the results of a clinical trial seeming to show that ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 death rates by more than 90%1 — among the largest studies of the drug’s ability to treat COVID-19 to date. But on 14 July, after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of “ethical concerns”.

    Ahmed Elgazzar at Benha University in Egypt, who is one of the authors on the paper, told Nature he was not given a chance to defend his work before it was removed.

    "Carlos Chaccour, a global-health researcher at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health in Spain, says it has been difficult to conduct rigorous studies on ivermectin. That’s partly because funders and academics in wealthy countries haven’t supported them, and, he suspects, have often dismissed trials of ivermectin because most of them have been done in lower-income countries. "



    Conclusions:
    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin.



    The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro

    Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity …





    Praktiliselt sama hea kui tuberkuloosiravimit covidi vastu vötta ju

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  • Pints
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    Algselt postitas rahvaspordipäev Vaata postitust
    Hobuseussiravimihindasid jälgides on lihtne vaadata siit kuidas nad kümnekordistusid äkki
    Ulme!




    Well played sir, well played!

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  • rahvaspordipäev
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    Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981; William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for its discovery and applications.

    *Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended.

    Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic

    -No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    -No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    -A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
    Hobuseussiravimihindasid jälgides on lihtne vaadata siit kuidas nad kümnekordistusid äkki
    Last edited by rahvaspordipäev; 24.10.21, 01:06. Põhjus: f you pinc

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  • Mõnuagent 007
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    Algselt postitas Pints Vaata postitust
    Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981; William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for its discovery and applications.

    *Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended.

    Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic

    -No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    -No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    -A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
    No see on nagu Helme ei võitle vaktsineerimise vastu, vaid vaktsineerimisvabaduse eest! #vandenõu

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  • Pints
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    Algselt postitas Mõnuagent 007 Vaata postitust
    Ei viitsi guugeldada, aga kellele ivermektiini patent kuulub, et talle umbes Westonsiga samaväärilist PR-kampaaniat tehakse?
    Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981; William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for its discovery and applications.

    *Merck's patent on ivermectin expired in 1996, though it was extended.

    Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic

    -No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    -No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    -A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

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  • Mõnuagent 007
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    Ei viitsi guugeldada, aga kellele ivermektiini patent kuulub, et talle umbes Westonsiga samaväärilist PR-kampaaniat tehakse?

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  • LaRaBla
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    Päris sitta ei tasu ajada. Ivermektiini kasutavad sajad miljonid maailmas juba aastaid, selle kasutus inimesel sai nobeli preemia 2015. Sönakasutus nagu "koera ussirohi" vöi "hobuserohi" on puhas laim, seda vöiks siis üksköik mis ravimi kohta öelda mida kasutatakse nii inimesel kui loomadel
    Kui Nobel antakse parasiithaiguste ravimise eest, siis see on sama hea kui jaurata, et 1952. aastal sai streptomütsiini avastaja ka Nobeli, seega hakaku kõik koroonahaiged streptomütsiini sööma. Pohh, et Nobel anti tuberkuloosi ravimise eest.

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  • _AI_
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    Teinekord ikka juhtub nii, et süüdistad otsuses noksi.
    Tra, sa ka. kahju.

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